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Post by Niemz on Feb 10, 2007 1:03:54 GMT -6
Anyone still play this ship versus ship combat game?
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Post by Mortalas on Feb 10, 2007 12:02:32 GMT -6
I have honestly never heard of it, educate Mortalas the ignorant one , please.
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Post by Niemz on Feb 10, 2007 12:26:29 GMT -6
Star Trek: The Role Playing Game is, as the name indicates, a role-playing game set in the fictional Star Trek universe published and edited by FASA Corporation from 1982 to 1989.
Setting
Star Trek: The Role Playing Game was principally set on board starships in the United Federation of Planets Star Fleet. Most player characters were assumed to be members of Star Fleet, engaged in space exploration missions. They typically held senior posts on a starship bridge, and visited alien planets as part of landing parties.
For the most part, the game's published supplements and modules were set in the "original crew" movie era (a.d 2280/90s), but a few were set in the original TV era (2260s) or a century later in the Next Generation era (a.d 2360/70s). See Official Supplements by era below.
Because of the simplicity of the game's structure, all of the supplements, regardless of their "era", could be easily re-set to suit a different era.
[edit] FASA Trek vs "canon" Trek
FASA designed their Star Trek game universe nearly five years before Star Trek: The Next Generation (TNG) (1987-1994) first aired. The game's designers built their "game universe" when there was no official canon, and they borrowed heavily from ideas in the Star Trek original series, the Star Trek animated series, fan fiction and the works of the late Star Trek novelist John M. Ford.
Game elements which either never introduced into what later became canon Star Trek, or elements which differ significantly from how canon Star Trek presents them, include:
John M. Ford's Klingons
In one of the game's most dramatic departures from what would become canon, Ford's interpretation of Klingons placed them in a paranoid society, split into "Imperial" Klingons, "human-fusion" Klingons and "Romulan-fusion" Klingons, the latter two groups created through genetic engineering. They had sophisticated nomenclatures, a Klingon Emperor, "thought admirals" and an afterlife known as the "Black Fleet." Their homeworld was Klinzhai.
Ford's Klingons believed that the naked stars remember acts of courage performed under them, as this poem suggests:
"And though I had slain a thousand foes less one, The thousandth knife found my liver; The thousandth enemy said to me, 'Now you shall die, Now none shall know.' And the fool, looking down, believed this, Not seeing, above his shoulders, the naked stars, Each one remembering."
The post-FASA canonical Klingons on the other hand as depicted in later Star Trek TV series, have a culture and traditions based more on that of the Japanese Samurai (or, rather, Western imaginations of them). The canon Klingon Empire is governed by the High Council, led by a Chancellor. Their homeworld is Qo'noS.
FASA's interpretation of the Klingons was an early and popular attempt to offer an account for the differing appearances of Klingons from the original series to the first of the motion pictures, later joked about (but left unexplained) in an episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and finally resolved in an episode of Star Trek: Enterprise. Still, the positive portrayal of Klingons as protagonists (such as Lt. Worf of ST:TNG) was arguably an influence of the Star Trek novels of John M. Ford. [1]
The Triangle
The game supplement Trader Captains and Merchant Princes, first published in 1983, introduced "the Triangle", a lawless area wedged between the space occupied by the United Federation of Planets, the Klingon Empire and the Romulan Star Empire.
The Triangle supplement later introduced a set of excellent colour maps, allowing players to know exactly how long it would take them (in game time) to travel between star systems.
This lawless area was popular with players as it allowed them to escape the strict parameters of a military campaign. Most campaigns with civilian or non-Star Fleet characters were based entirely or in-part within the Triangle.
Perhaps as a tip of the hat to the Triangle, Captain Picard mentions a group of Andorian pirates based in the "triangular system" in the 3rd season episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation "The Survivors."
Ship classes
The game introduced a number of starship classes which were not based on those seen in the series, though many of them borrow heavily from the starship design standards set in the series; that is, the use of main "saucer" sections, outboard "warp" nacelles and so on.
They included, but were not limited to: the Bader class scout, Baker class destroyer, Chandley class frigate, the Enterprise class cruiser (the refitted Constitution-class introduced in Star Trek: The Motion Picture), Derf class survey ship, Larson class destroyer, Loknar class frigate,Nelson class scout, Northampton class frigate, the so-called Reliant class cruiser (the FASA name for the movie-era Miranda class cruiser), the Mission class transport, Royal Sovereign class battlecruiser, M'benga class hospital ship and the Sagan class science ship (an upgrade of the canon Oberth class starship). A few designs were made for ships mentioned in canon but not seen, most notable (non-canon) among these was FASA's conjecture of the Ambassador class starship, which somewhat resembles a modified Enterprise-class cruiser with Excelsior nacelles; in canon the Ambassador is a precursor to the Galaxy class starships.
The distinct design of several of those ships, notably the Chandley class frigate and the Loknar class frigate, have made them popular in non-canon Star Trek folklore. The Loknar design bears a more than passing resemblance to the NX class starship featured in Star Trek: Enterprise.
It is worth noting the Mission class transport, a shuttle-style, warp-capable ship designed for small crews and short missions, is similar to the small, long-range, shuttle-style runabouts introduced in later Star Trek series. The FASA Mission class transport pre-dates it by more than a decade.
Star Trek historical timeline
A number of key dates in the FASA Star Trek universe are approximately 60 years out of phase with their equivalent dates in the more official canon Star Trek universe.
Languages
Supplements to the basic game introduced players to the rudiments of the Romulan and Klingon languages. Neither language, as expressed in the game, is the same as later depictions in the Star Trek series.
The FASA version of the Klingon language is called Klingonaase.
[edit] Place in Star Trek canon
Given the official canon which has since now been established, FASA's interpretation of Star Trek has to be classified as best as a part of the Star Trek Expanded Universe literature and at worst, as simply incorrect. This displeased fans of the game - see Controversy, below.
The FASA map of the Star Trek universe is still accurate in part but contains a number of anomalies there was, for example, no "alpha quadrant") and other elements, including ship classes and dates (both detailed above) are not now consistent with canon Star Trek.
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Post by Niemz on Feb 10, 2007 12:27:05 GMT -6
System
FASA had previously written supplements for GDW's Traveller, an association which influenced the early structure of the Star Trek game.
The game system was percentile based, meaning that for every action or test desired, players had to roll two ten-sided dice to generate a random number from 1 to 100. Success or failure was determined either by rolling against a set difficulty target, or a player's own skill, or a hybrid of both, adjusted by circumstances.
For example, assuming no modifiers, if a player had a skill of 45 and rolled 33, the character was assumed to have been successful in that action. If there were tools for the task available, the player might have a bonus of +25; if the task is made more difficult because of conditions (such as a space battle) the player might have a penalty of -25.
The rulebooks provided systems for governing personal combat, space and planetary exploration and combat between starships. Supplements provided additional rules for characters in the Klingon Empire and Romulan Star Empire, interplanetary trade and commerce, and campaigns focusing on other non-Star Fleet players.
Each planet in the game's atlas had a code that - coupled with the character's merchant skill and some luck - allowed players to buy and trade across the galaxy. A ship's carrying capacity was not based on tonnage, but on volume (i.e. how much space a ship can hold). There were also rules on buying and selling stock on the Federation stock market.
[edit] Character Generation
Like most role-playing games of its era, players had to roll dice to determine the opening attributes of their character. Star Trek: The Role Playing Game characters begin with seven basic abilities - Strength, Endurance, Dexterity, Intellect, Luck, Charisma and Psionic Potential. Though generated prior to the commencement of play of the first gaming session, these attributes are adjusted depending on the character's race. (Vulcans, for example, gained a natural bonus to their Psionic Potential score, a measure of their heightened psionic skill.)
Players had the option of playing virtually any humanoid character introduced in the original Star Trek TV series, the animated series or the first few 1980s movies. They included: Humans, Vulcans, Tellarites, Andorians, Orions, Klingons, Romulans. Two other races introduced in the animated series - Caitians and Edoans - could also be played.
Players determined their character's background education and opening age by rolling dice, accumulating skill points based on their choice of assignment (helm operations, communications, medical etc.) or tours of duty in the military (usually the United Federation of Planets Star Fleet, but also the space navies of the Klingon Empire or Romulan Star Empire) or civilian life (merchant shipping).
Players also had the option of assuming the roles of the Star Trek characters, including Captain Kirk, Mr Spock, Lieutenant Uhura and Yeoman Janice Rand instead of creating their own character.
[edit] Starship Tactical Combat Simulator game
The game's basic rule system provided a simple system for moderating space battles, in which each player assumed a role in the battle, typically by manning a station on the ship's bridge.
The Captain determined the strategy, the Engineer was responsible for power management and allocation to different systems such as weapons and shields, the Helmsman for firing weapons, the Navigator for managing deflector shields, the Communications Officer for damage control and so on.
FASA later developed that system into a more complex standalone game, the Starship Tactical Combat Simulator, similar to a tabletop wargame. During a role-playing session, if the adventure called for a space battle, role-players had the option of using this standalone game to determine the outcome of the battle.
[edit] Controversy
FASA's depiction of the Star Trek universe was widely received in the mid-80s, even by people who did not play role-playing games, and for the most part it was assumed by many to be canon. Many players therefore were dismayed when Star Trek: The Next Generation began to air in 1987 with what they saw as "changes" to a pre-established universe.
In effect, what had been assumed to be canon was, in a short space of time, no longer.
Paramount Pictures, who owned the licence to Star Trek, revoked FASA's licence to publish the official role-playing game in 1989. The decision was sudden, and by some accounts provoked by what became the last two supplements produced by FASA - The Next Generation Officer's Manual, published in 1988, and The Next Generation First Year Sourcebook, published in 1989.
Both contained material which Paramount later said had been published without the correct clearances from within the studio. Given the rising success of the Star Trek franchise, it follows that Paramount now wanted to exert a greater degree of control over the game, to ensure it remained consistent with the TV series.
Many players blamed the studio for its abrupt disolution of FASA's licence as well as Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry for retconning of what had been seen as established Star Trek lore. They sent letters of protest to the studio, and to contemporary science-fiction magazines such as Starlog and GDW's Challenge magazine, in vain.
Given the avalanche of canon material which has come since that time - the television series Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Star Trek: Voyager and Enterprise, several subsequent theatrical films and a library of novelisations - FASA's interpretation of Star Trek has largely been forgotten except by a handful of die-hard fans.
The rise of the internet, in particular, has given voice again to fans of the FASA version of the Klingons and Klingonaase, enthusiasm for "khomerex zha" and Klingon nomenclature (epetai, sutai) — a Klingon worldview and Klingon honorifics respectively, both created by John M. Ford — and references to "human-fusion" and "Imperial" Klingons.
[edit] Official publications
[edit] Rulebooks
* Star Trek: The Role Playing Game, 1st Ed. (1982) * Star Trek: The Role Playing Game, 2nd Ed. (1983)
[edit] Supplements
[edit] Set during the original series
* Ship Construction Manual, 1st Ed. (supplement, 1983) * Ship Recognition Manual: Federation, 1st Ed. (supplement, 1983) * Ship Recognition Manual: The Klingon Empire, 1st Ed. (supplement, 1983) * Star Trek Gamemaster's Kit (supplement, 1983) * Trader Captains and Merchant Princes, 1st Ed. (supplement, 1983) * The Four Years War (supplement, 1986)
[edit] Set in the movie era
* The Klingons (supplement, 1984) * The Romulans (supplement, 1984) * Star Trek III Sourcebook Update (supplement, 1984) * Federation Ship Recognition Manual (supplement, 1985) * Klingon Ship Recognition Manual (supplement, 1985) * Romulan Ship Recognition Manual (supplement, 1985) * Ship Construction Manual, 2nd Ed. (supplement, 1985) * The Triangle (supplement, 1985) * The Triangle Campaign (supplement, 1985) * The Federation (supplement, 1986) * Klingon Intelligence Briefing (supplement, 1986) * The Romulan War (supplement, 1986) * Star Trek IV Sourcebook Update (supplement, 1986) * Klingons: Game Operations Manual (supplement, 1987) * Klingons: Star Fleet Intelligence Manual (supplement, 1987) * The Orions (supplement, 1987) * Regula-1 Orbital Station Deckplans (supplement, 1987) * Star Fleet Intelligence Manual (supplement, 1987) * Trader Captains & Merchant Princes, 2nd Ed. (supplement, 1987)
[edit] Set in the TNG era
* Star Trek: The Next Generation Officer's Manual (supplement, 1988) * Star Trek: The Next Generation First Year Sourcebook (supplement, 1989)
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Post by Mortalas on Feb 10, 2007 12:28:18 GMT -6
Wow, that is so mighty powerful edumacaten
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Post by Mortalas on Feb 10, 2007 17:48:35 GMT -6
And I just finished reading it, I'm proud of my self!!
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Post by brenn on Feb 12, 2007 11:38:28 GMT -6
This is probably the only RPG I have never played atleast once.
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Post by Mortalas on Feb 12, 2007 17:33:05 GMT -6
Hey, don't feel bad... I've never even heard of it and I might possibly be the most avid trek gamer round these Forums. (However, y'all can probably school me in trek cannon. so I will respectfully bow out before I get hurt. )
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Post by brenn on Feb 13, 2007 11:25:52 GMT -6
I'd probably play a Trek Universe using the Paladium/Rifts rules. They would fit in very easy with the star trek genre. This gives me ideas...
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Post by Mortalas on Feb 14, 2007 8:43:39 GMT -6
..... Hey... good idea...
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Post by earthcrusher on Mar 24, 2007 15:02:59 GMT -6
I have actually played this game once it was fun I thought!
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Post by Niemz on Mar 25, 2007 22:04:54 GMT -6
It is alot of fun!
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Post by earthcrusher on Mar 26, 2007 19:56:13 GMT -6
You still have it?
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Post by Niemz on Mar 26, 2007 20:49:18 GMT -6
yes I do, plus all the supplements.
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Post by earthcrusher on Mar 27, 2007 6:54:05 GMT -6
COOL! WHEN YOU GET BACK HOME AND SETTLE BACK IN, SET UP THE GAME AND LETS PLAY!!
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