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Post by Mr. Atoz on Apr 11, 2011 7:20:01 GMT -6
I've lately been immersing myself in the Sherlock Holmes mysteries, and I have come to the startling conclusion that Holmes was in fact a native of the planet Vulcan who somehow got stranded on Earth! Consider the similarities between Sherlock and Spock.
They are both exceptionally tall and slender. Both have facial features described as "hawklike". Both are remarkably strong and adept at hand to hand combat. Both are devoted to logic and science, and distrustful of emotion. Both value methodical, deductive reasoning, and disapprove of "guessing". Neither has much use for women. Both are fond of music, and both play stringed instruments. Even surrounded by a dense human population, both prefer to keep to themselves. Both are known to exert an almost "hypnotic" effect on women, when they chose to. Both have the ability to go for days without food or sleep when working on a problem.
About the only Vulcan trait I haven't observed in Holmes is the Vulcan mind meld. But he often displays the uncanny ability to know what Watson is thinking, even to the extent of finishing sentences for him. What do you think?
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Post by Niemz on Apr 11, 2011 10:57:23 GMT -6
What about the opium addiction?
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Post by Mr. Atoz on Apr 15, 2011 7:30:11 GMT -6
I'm glad you brought that up because really Watson only mentioned Holmes using cocaine a few times (out of 56 stories and four novels). Mainly it was just in the beginning, he said that Holmes only took it for stimulation in between cases. Once he became famous (as a result of Watson's stories) he had all the cases he could handle and didn't use it any more. If Holmes was addicted to anything, it was probably tobacco! In some of the early stories he literally sits up all night smoking his pipe, going through ounces of tobacco at a time. But again this was a habit that he grew out of later in the series.
As for opium, it's true that in "The Man with the Twisted Lip", Watson found Holmes in an opium den, but NOT as a "customer". He was undercover.
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Post by Niemz on Apr 15, 2011 19:23:42 GMT -6
I was liked the fact he had his flaws, made him more likable.
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Post by Mr. Atoz on Apr 18, 2011 7:50:10 GMT -6
Yes, that's true. He had flaws. He made mistakes, too. He sometimes went down the wrong track completely, he wasn't always right. He had his own sense of justice, which I didn't entirely agree with either.
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Post by Thallassa on Apr 27, 2011 7:44:08 GMT -6
That's pretty interesting! have you seen the movie with Robert Downey?
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Post by Mr. Atoz on Apr 29, 2011 7:42:26 GMT -6
Actually, no. Strangely enough, just after I started this thread, HBO had a free preview weekend, and I had the chance to see it then. I lasted less than ten minutes! The movie starts with "Holmes and Watson" fighting their way through a gang of thugs rather like action heroes. "Watson" looked more like a professional wrestler than a doctor, and he was taller than "Holmes". I simply changed the channel! I HATE when they "reimagine" famous characters this way! If they wanted created completely NEW characters, they should have the f***ing decency to make up their own f***ing names too! Excuse my French!
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Post by Thallassa on Apr 29, 2011 11:48:59 GMT -6
No need to aplogize, Captain sir. I feel much the same way about Alice in wonderland being turned into a sword/and/sorcery heroine!
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Post by Mr. Atoz on May 2, 2011 7:36:22 GMT -6
ah yes. I know what you mean!
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Post by Kitty on Sept 15, 2012 15:37:29 GMT -6
I have found that I must put aside the books, and focus on the movie/tv series as a separate entity. If I do that, then I can enjoy the movie/series. Otherwise, I wouldn't have seen any of the Harry Potter, Twilight, or a long list of others. I know going in, that the book/s is always better than the edited/remade versions.
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Post by Mr. Atoz on Sept 17, 2012 7:58:42 GMT -6
At least the Harry Potter movies stayed close to the originals. As did the Lord of the Rings (they did change a few minor things, but they didn't really distract from the whole story). On the other hand, I watched part of the Percy Jackson movie last week, and it was almost completely "reimagined"! I hate when they do that.
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Post by Kitty on Sept 23, 2012 19:39:07 GMT -6
I was disappointed in LotR when they totally skipped over the entire shire incident - the itty bitty "flash-forward" in the Lothlórien doesn't count. That whole thing seems to take up like an entire 3rd of the book. . . I loved the hobbit uprising.
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Post by Mr. Atoz on Sept 24, 2012 8:04:16 GMT -6
You mean the "Scouring of the Shire"? I can totally understand why they dropped it. Coming after the huge battle with Sauron, it would have felt like almost like an anticlimax.
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Post by Kitty on Sept 26, 2012 21:03:38 GMT -6
You mean the "Scouring of the Shire"? I can totally understand why they dropped it. Coming after the huge battle with Sauron, it would have felt like almost like an anticlimax. Yea, but it does give you the "what happened to Saruman". And, rebel hobbits . . . Nuff said. LOL!
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Post by Mr. Atoz on Sept 28, 2012 7:45:22 GMT -6
I watched the premiere of "Elementary" last night, and it's just as bad as I feared it would be. "Sherlock Holmes" is a police consultant in New York City and an addict (to what I don't think they said). As the story opens, "Joan Watson" is arriving at his apartment. She's not his roommate, she has been hired by his father to live with him for three months to see that he doesn't slide back. He has just ESCAPED (not released) from the hospital where he had been in a rehab program, and he goes out at once to consult with the police on a murder. Maybe I'm naive, but I would think the police do background checks on consultants and wouldn't employ an addict. But this is all beside the point. I get the impression that they're trying to copy "Monk". But Monk at least had charm. This guy is an obnoxious creep, more like House. At the first commercial break I bailed on it. But if you like House, by all means give it a shot.
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